"appropriated" LOLOLOL https://twitter.com/Logo_Daedalus/status/1108782563928215554">https://twitter.com/Logo_Daed...
2/

I& #39;m a "cuck" because I& #39;ve created two companies from scratch, have written novels (from scratch), own a 50 acre farm (debt free...after starting with a net worth of $0)...and criticize people who would rather bitch and moan than work to create?

ok! https://twitter.com/Logo_Daedalus/status/1108783534314061824">https://twitter.com/Logo_Daed...
3/

so apparently the two states of existence are

(a) have complete control over 100% of USG policy and the entire economy

(b) cucked

? https://twitter.com/TabulaFour/status/1108811731600637952">https://twitter.com/TabulaFou...
4/

I& #39;m going to go with "fallacy of the excluded middle" here and suggest that there is some path other than "if you disagree w @Logo_Daedalus that all the earth, money & machines have been stolen from you by a cabal, you& #39;re a cuck" and "if you don& #39;t control USG you& #39;re a cuck"
5/

Both @Logo_Daedalus and @TabulaFour create these insane dichotomies where either you& #39;re a cuck or you& #39;re the supreme dictator of the planet.

This is ... um ... crazy?
6/

One can accomplish a ton in life (a) without permission from a ruling cabal, (b) even if one does not become dictator of the planet.

Sad sack ideologies like this exist to create excuses for failure / for not even trying.
7/

Hey Anon, why are you 27 and living in your mom& #39;s basement?

A1: I& #39;m lazy, I give up too easily, I& #39;m afraid of hard work.

A2: THE SYSTEM IS RIGGED; THE EARTH AND THE MACHINES ARE STOLEN FROM ME; IF YOU DISAGREE WITH ME YOU& #39;RE A CUCK.

A2 feels good.

A1 helps you.

Choose.
8/

Also, just because the system is rigged a bit in a way that it wasn& #39;t in 1950, doesn& #39;t mean that (a) it& #39;s harder than it ever was, (b) it& #39;s even slightly hard, compared to other times / other places, (c) one should give up.

https://twitter.com/jadgroyper/status/1108814972061171714">https://twitter.com/jadgroype...
9/

Yes, in 1950 it was possible to trip over a turd and end up in a decent paying union job.

...which would let you own a very small 2 bedroom cape on a 1/20th acre lot in a Levittown, and share 1 small often-breaking car with your wife.

People confuse Brady Bunch w reality.
10/

"GOSH, IF THE BOOMERS HADN& #39;T RUINED EVERYTHING, I& #39;D HAVE A GREAT JOB LIKE DON DRAPER IN MAD MEN, AND MY WIFE WOULD BE A 10/10 MOVIE STARLET, AND I& #39;D LIVE IN A MANSION, AND I& #39;D LOOK SUAVE ALL THE TIME, AND ...."
11/

muh justifications for failure

https://twitter.com/Logo_Daedalus ">https://twitter.com/Logo_Daed...
12/

It& #39;s still possible.

Folks just don& #39;t want to make the sacrifices.

Your grand dad worked long hours at a hard job.

Become a plumber, or a garbage man. Buy a house 90 minutes outside the cool places. Where I live 3 bedrooms cost ~ $200k.

Done. https://twitter.com/BlackLodgeAgent/status/1108825846079459333">https://twitter.com/BlackLodg...
13/

https://twitter.com/Grime_Knight/status/1108825364728406016">https://twitter.com/Grime_Kni...
14/

You just made up some words and pretended I said them.

I did not.

My actual words are these: if you want better results, complain less and work harder.

Worked for me.

It& #39;ll work for you too. https://twitter.com/Preussenritter/status/1108826216352628736">https://twitter.com/Preussenr...
15/

Yeah, I& #39;m going to have to go with the awards committee that named it "best novel of the year" over <checks notes> some rando who never read it.

https://twitter.com/glahnnnn/status/1108826862803914757">https://twitter.com/glahnnnn/...
16/

Yep.

But complaining about the quality of the bread that someone else puts on the table remains super easy. https://twitter.com/mike_soja/status/1108827406943559682">https://twitter.com/mike_soja...
17/

me: "hard work has benefits"

you: "your book sucks"

me: "people say it& #39;s good"

you: "haha you& #39;re not rich and/or you are rich and paid off the judges"

Who do you think you& #39;re convincing? I& #39;ve got a farm, a hot wife, a good life. Bc I work hard.

https://twitter.com/glahnnnn/status/1108828374787592203">https://twitter.com/glahnnnn/...
18/

So go get a job as a garbageman and live 90 minutes outside the city. Job pays $50k - 100k/yr, and houses cost $200k.

What& #39;s stopping you ... other than your own aversion to hard work?

https://twitter.com/friscoslab/status/1108829694193995776">https://twitter.com/friscosla...
19/

Already did, on 1 Jan.

Down 40 pounds so far.

So today I& #39;m just hard working, married, successful in two different careers, and competent.

...but in a a year or so I& #39;ll be trim too.

https://twitter.com/terrorhousemag/status/11088299496019476481">https://twitter.com/terrorhou...
20/

"get your story straight"

I haven& #39;t changed my position at all.

"garbageman doesn& #39;t pay well"

Burea of Labor Statistics stats say otherwise. https://twitter.com/BlackLodgeAgent/status/1108830623651766277">https://twitter.com/BlackLodg...
21/

It& #39;s quite impressive how people who won& #39;t lift a finger to better their lot in life have a TON of energy when it comes to defending the thesis that their failure is someone else& #39;s fault.
22/

https://twitter.com/SpaceAgeCowboy/status/1108831529952776209">https://twitter.com/SpaceAgeC...
23/

Many such cases!

@SaucercrabZero also does well in the biz, IIRC.
24/

Actually, I& #39;m quite good at this, and you& #39;re just upset because I& #39;ve got your number, and I& #39;m not buying into your pity party /excuse factory.

https://twitter.com/friscoslab/status/1108831672840130562">https://twitter.com/friscosla...
25/

average garbageman salary in LA: $54k

NJ: $57k

etc

https://www.bls.gov/oes/2017/may/oes537081.htm">https://www.bls.gov/oes/2017/...
26/ https://twitter.com/DeanBradleySFF/status/1108832297791426564">https://twitter.com/DeanBradl...
27/

I have read the whole thread. I& #39;m the one who started it and I& #39;ve been CC-ed the whole time.

I& #39;m sorry your dad and all his siblings failed to save for retirement. I guess the Jews and the globalists are to blame for that somehow? Terrible!

https://twitter.com/friscoslab/status/1108832178887102470">https://twitter.com/friscosla...
28/

I& #39;m not Boomer, I& #39;m gen X.

I don& #39;t want or care what people who disagree with me do, but it is my observation that most of them are ~ 20 year old NEETs.

> frankly you& #39;re not honest

oh?

https://twitter.com/friscoslab/status/1108833449153044480">https://twitter.com/friscosla...
29/

Many such cases! https://twitter.com/orthonormalist/status/1108833865819262977">https://twitter.com/orthonorm...
30/

I don& #39;t think that 100% of people who succeed do so by hard work.

I don& #39;t think 100% of people who fail do so because of laziness.

But it is ALWAYS the case that, given a set of circumstances, hard work does better than laziness.
31/

Excellent point!

https://twitter.com/SpaceAgeCowboy/status/1108834030038978561">https://twitter.com/SpaceAgeC...
32/ https://twitter.com/PWilliamKitty/status/1108835022415499273">https://twitter.com/PWilliamK...
33/ https://twitter.com/flavagoodtime/status/1108834600413990912">https://twitter.com/flavagood...
34/

Yeah, the SJW globhomo thing sucks. But read up ; I never said "everything is absolutely perfect". I& #39;m merely disagreeing with the hard line fatalist "everything is terrible and hard work doesn& #39;t matter". https://twitter.com/dpinsen/status/1108834588594442266">https://twitter.com/dpinsen/s...
35/

many such cases!

https://twitter.com/therealnuge820/status/1108836835751546880">https://twitter.com/therealnu...
36/

many such cases! https://twitter.com/Pookiedr/status/1108836838721105920">https://twitter.com/Pookiedr/...
37/

Yep. I attack @CatoInstitute and @AlexNowrasteh more than anyone else.

Two distinct topics. https://twitter.com/dpinsen/status/1108837051963723776">https://twitter.com/dpinsen/s...
38/

Nothing I& #39;ve said above speaks to this - I& #39;m arguing AGAINST "it& #39;s impossible to do well", NOT in favor of "it& #39;s exactly as easy to do well now as in 1950". https://twitter.com/EmperorCoolidge/status/1108843453155282970">https://twitter.com/EmperorCo...
39/

The problem with intertemporal comparisons is that EVERYTHING IS DIFFERENT.

In 1950, there was a big central hump inthe bell curve. In 2019, there& #39;s not.

In 1950 college cost X ... but wasn& #39;t necessary. In 2019 it costs 10 x ... but still isn& #39;t really necessary.
40/

In 1950 it was almost impossible to set up your own publishing / programming / whatever business.

In 2019 it& #39;s trivial.

So I& #39;m suspicious of "it was easier then", and ALSO of "it was harder then"

For who? With what assumptions?

Let& #39;s agree on this: it was DIFFERENT then
41/

Exactly how am I out of touch? Be telling NEETS who just want UBI that they can actually be quite successful and own their own homes if they just stop bitching about the Boomers and instead become garbagemen or welders?

How is that out of touch? https://twitter.com/PenceElectric/status/1108844624037195776">https://twitter.com/PenceElec...
42/

Agreed!

Today you can& #39;t get a factory job with a pension (although, honestly, I bet most NEETs couldn& #39;t do 1 week of standing at a drill press for a 9 hour shift), but you can work from home editing ebooks for your friend in Chile.

It& #39;s DIFFERENT. https://twitter.com/RoccamSoccam/status/1108846533057937413">https://twitter.com/RoccamSoc...
43/

let& #39;s be honest with each other:

(1) you couldn& #39;t rebut my argument re whiny NEETs so you changed the topic
(2) it& #39;s bigger than most family farms during America& #39;s frontier period
(3) I get more than half my family& #39;s food from it, so it& #39;s big enough https://twitter.com/D_R_Ball/status/1108908453773205506?s=19">https://twitter.com/D_R_Ball/...
44/

circling back to this:

In 1850 we had pioneers moving west, owning just a hatchet, a knife, one set of clothing, and maybe a whetstone. Find some land, spend all summer working 20 hrs/week on a neighboring farm for food, another 40 hrs girdling trees on your own land.
45/

All winter long you& #39;re splitting wood for your neighbor, 20+ hours per week, in return for corn mush with an occassional bit of bacon, and cutting down the dead trees on your own land. Big fires, night and day, to clear the wood. Next spring, keep working for neighbors >
46/

in return for borrowing their ox and plow. Plow your land, between and around the tree stumps. Use some of your carefully horded coins to buy seed corn. Plant it.

Move out of neighbor& #39;s barn and build a sod hut. Weed the corn by hand, with a hoe, for 60 hrs/week.
47/

Start digging a well. By hand.

...But keep working at neighbor& #39;s farm in payment for the use of his pick and shovel, and his occasional help.

Haul stones on a travois to line the well you& #39;re digging.

You collapse into your sod hut every night after 12+ hours of hard work.
48/

You& #39;re 18 months in. Corn is coming up. Corn worms got half of it, but you still clear $20 selling it to the general store - and keep enough to get you through the winter, and plant in spring.

Teeth are getting a bit loose bc of nutritional problems. Blacksmith pulls 2.
49/

Another winter spent splitting wood for neighbors for pay, and sawing wood to make your own house. That $20 is mostly gone: bought a saw, a pail, a froe, some candles, 10 lbs of nails.

Spring comes. Rent the ox and plow again. $20 all gone. Plant your seed corn.
50/

Lather, rinse, repeat. After 5 years of 60 hour work weeks, you have 15 acres, a well, a 1 room house, and three pigs.

Your standard of living is objectively 2% of what a modern bus driver has.
51/

FAST FORWARD 170 years.

@Logo_Daedalus uses his pocket supercomputer to bitch and moan that "the boomers stole all the land and machines and jobs from us - every other generation had it so easy. We& #39;ve got it so hard."

22 NEETs hit the "like" button.

LIFE IS SO HARD, YO!!!
52/

For folks who want to see how their lot in life compares to previous generations, I recommend picking up the Little House on the Prairie books. (a) they& #39;re an awesome read, (b) if you strip away the rose-tinted glasses, you realize that life was HARD.
53/

And, recall, this is a true story set in the most prosperous nation in the history of mankind.

People were doing everything they could to get the opportunity to work 60 hrs/week to clear fields, raise corn with their own hands, etc.

...because every other option was worse.
54/ https://twitter.com/BrianEr32944716/status/1109089838551236610">https://twitter.com/BrianEr32...
55/

This is EXACTLY the problem. These "everything was stolen from us" folks use screencaps of 1950s advertising to show how things "were" and what was "taken" from them.

You think every single guy in 1950 had a hot blond wife, a red corvette, a ....? https://twitter.com/Advanced_COBOL/status/1109090068441034752">https://twitter.com/Advanced_...
56/

Hard work and long hours are part of the secret.

Two years ago I worked for 6 months on a gig. 12 hour days + 3 hour commute. Alarm clock at 4:10 am, back home at 7:30pm. Every Sunday I worked a side job for 8-10 hours.

85 hour weeks. https://twitter.com/BrianEr32944716/status/1109091414347055105">https://twitter.com/BrianEr32...
57/

And in those 6 months I paid off half of my remaining mortgage.

I hated every minute of that commute and that job.

But I did it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7ZHLppS5_w">https://www.youtube.com/watch...
58/

If you want to get ahead in life, you work hard.

You think a hard STEM major was fun?

You think grinding at hard jobs was fun?

You think saving much of my salary was fun?

Everything has tradeoffs. You want to play 30 hours of WoW or whatever per week, go ahead.
59/

....but don& #39;t do that and then bitch and moan that the Jews / the boomers / globohomo / the corporations stole from you.

There& #39;s only one resource you& #39;re born with: time.

There& #39;s only one person that steals it from you: YOU.
60/

And has feminism convinced a lot of women to be whores and sleep around? Yes.

Does automation make it hard to earn a living bolting wheels onto cars? Yes.

Are you the first generation in the history of the world to have it hard? No.
61/

thread

https://twitter.com/politifakes/status/1109083925635198976">https://twitter.com/politifak...
62/

"Boomers had it easy"

yeah, ok.

Hey, what& #39;s your draft number, NEET ?
63/

Congrats, you& #39;re comparing a picture of an 18 yo midshipman to a 47 yo me.

I am, in fact, ~30 years older than Heinlein was at the time of that picture.

You have absolutely DESTROYED my point that hard work pays benefits. Listen to the applause. https://twitter.com/Logo_Daedalus/status/1109183166043049984">https://twitter.com/Logo_Daed...
64/

But enough about me, @Logo_Daedalus , let& #39;s talk about YOU.

Upload pix plz (no dik pix; this is a family friendly account).

Also, please tell us who your role models are, and how well you have achieved similar levels of success.

We want to judge you using your own process
65/

Upload pix and list of achievements plz @J34512063

https://twitter.com/J34512063/status/1109184028576485376">https://twitter.com/J34512063...
66/

No, actually, older Heinlein was a bit of a weirdo perv. I& #39;m just pointing out that if you want to say "lol you look stupid", you should use a good calibration standard. https://twitter.com/Logo_Daedalus/status/1109185974116982785">https://twitter.com/Logo_Daed...
67/

You also seem to be under the mistaken belief that I get my sense of self worth from the fact that I wrote two books.

I don& #39;t.

Writing is a minor sideline for me. I& #39;m an engineer, a husband, a hobby farmer, and a Catholic. Writing is a $7.50/hour hobby.
68/

holy crap, this is actually you?

and YOU are calling ME a cuck and ugly?

o
m
g

my dude
69/

have you-

have you-
70/

have you ever * touched * a girl?
71/

I was in the military at the time. I looked decent. Upload pix plz. We& #39;ll compare. https://twitter.com/tragiclabyrinth/status/1109188155641466880">https://twitter.com/tragiclab...
72/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?reload=9&v=IDsDgBJmb0M">https://www.youtube.com/watch...
73/

what& #39;s his name? https://twitter.com/Logo_Daedalus/status/1109188368636751872">https://twitter.com/Logo_Daed...
74/

When I was working 60 hours + 15 hour commute + 8-10 hour side gig, I was also serving on my town& #39;s finance committee.

Just do it. https://twitter.com/tragiclabyrinth/status/1109188710464020480">https://twitter.com/tragiclab...
75/

I& #39;m listening to these NEETs bitch and moan about hard work.

I& #39;m a pansy compared to my dad.

He& #39;s a pansy compared to HIS dad.

That guy fought his way through the Pacific Campaign as a USMC grunt, in a unit that took over 100% casualties, then returned home to work >
76/

as an iron worker. Climbing high steel every day, 12 months a year, riveting and bolting. Building bridges, building NYC. Bought a house for his wife and his 4 kids.

Died on the job around age 50.

If he heard this NEET bitching, he& #39;d slap that attitude off their faces.
77/

If you want to put in average (or sub average) work, then content yourself with average (or sub average) results.

No skin off my nose.

https://twitter.com/apofcam/status/1109189649052794880">https://twitter.com/apofcam/s...
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